‘I don’t know what will happen if the opponent comes back’

The current president of the club Berrichonne de Châteauroux (from 1989 to 1991, from 2002 to 2008 and since March 2021), who plays in the national division, Michel Denisot is the new exceptional guest ofEurope 1 Sports† PSG chairman from 1991 to 1998 and with whom he won a European Cup, 76-year-old Indrois talks about his time at the capital club, the current situation after the elimination from the Champions League against Real Madrid on Wednesday evening and the differences between the Paris Saint -Germain of his time and the current team.

Is he still following the news from PSG? “I love football and I love the game”

“Yes. I’ve been at the helm of the club for seven years. It’s been a long time, but I’ve kept a special bond with this club. So I often follow the matches, also because I like football and that I play the game. There’s also a quality in the workforce that means if you like football you want to watch it. It’s the players who are at PSG, especially Mbappe, Neymar and Messi.”

The day he became president of Paris Saint-Germain: ‘I didn’t expect it at all’

“It was in 1991. It was in the last century and there was then the desire of André Rousselet, Pierre Lescure and Charles Biétry to come and rescue PSG, which was insolvent, in difficulty, and Bernard Brochand, who had joined the The PSG club had been doing the rounds of potential buyers at the time, Jacques Chirac, the mayor of Paris, had told him that the town hall wouldn’t save the club every year and that “they had to find a buyer”. Bernard Brochand made the rounds of potential buyers, he came to Canal at the time, and the French football championship was a soap opera for television, with characters, and Paris-Saint-Germain was a major character in the soap with OM.

So the station decided, initially for subscribers, to keep this soap opera, to save PSG, to buy it back. And I, I was completely unaware of all these negotiations and afterwards there was a meeting with André Rousselet, to which I was invited. We were about ten. And then he went around the table: who will be president? Charles (Biétry), I think he wanted to be. But he was the boss of sports, ethically it is not possible to be both the boss of sports and the president of a football club.

Me, I didn’t expect it at all, I was chairman of Châteauroux at the time. I have some experience then, so he tells me it would be good if you were chairman of PSG. I said I’d think about it and he said, ‘If I were you, I’d say yes.’ So I say yes and went home in the evening. I tell my wife that I was president of PSG, which was not planned at all in our family life because it also disrupts life afterward.

His analysis of the Qataris’ arrival at PSG: “It’s good for the club”

“I wasn’t in the circuit anymore. I stopped in 98. I thought it was a good thing. We were always jealous of English clubs with big foreign investors like Chelsea, like Manchester… in France this opportunity. Indeed, it It’s good for the club because it’s entered a different era in terms of resources, which are colossal.”

How would he have led the PSG team today? “I don’t know what’s going on inside”

“I don’t know. Maybe it’s a different philosophy, different goals, different ambitions. Why are they there and what do they want to do? I don’t know. I don’t know. I’m not in. When I was at PSG, I’ve heard enough categorical opinions from people who didn’t know what was going on I don’t know what’s going on inside I don’t know what happens in those games where incredible comebacks are the opponent That’s the strange thing about this team. I don’t know why.”

The PSG of the 90s, more striking than today? ‘The players did not switch clubs every four mornings’

“Yes, maybe. In retrospect, we see that the players who scored the most at that time were still Raï and (David) Ginola, Bernard Lama. I was lucky that players didn’t switch clubs every four mornings at the time “The seven years that I was at PSG, half the squad spent seven years with me. It strengthens a team. I think today you see players who score a goal and put their hands on the shirt, the logo on it and then they leave the next day. It’s absurd. It’s a bit childish, but at the time there was more attachment on the part of the players to the club they were in.

I think that could explain some of the differences in the matches. We had some pretty strong moments in that period, but what is missing today are the victories, the European Cup victories and the beautiful European Cup runs. Spectacular reversals. During PSG-Real I think we made all the football fans, all the clubs, all the supporters happy that night, because it was the emotion that was very strong.

Flipping a mountain and winning in stoppage time is something that doesn’t exist in the cinema, that doesn’t exist on Netflix, that only exists in sports and in the big sports moments. There isn’t a day in Paris that there aren’t three people walking down the street to talk to me about PSG. So it is true that it remains in the memories. I didn’t realize it when I was there.”

A lack of DNA at PSG? “There was an identification, a link between the audience and the team”

“In the 90s, when we went to play for the second game in Madrid, I said: ‘There, we are really in a different world. It will be complicated there.’ And indeed, we lost 3-1 and on the return we had this heat in the Park. After that, not everything was perfect in the audience at that time either. But we had something. There was an identification, a bond between the audience and the team that was very strong and it is very useful. It is the strength of Marseille, it is the strength of Saint-Etienne, it is also the strength of Lens and of course that plays. It is not that it moves mountains, but it is Plays.”

Why this passion for football? “It’s my father’s passion”

“It is something very personal and very intimate. In fact, it is my father’s passion. My father died when I was very young and I later decided that this passion would make him with me. The real reason is that. My father had two passions it was cars and football and he died when i was 5. He was a mechanic in a village in Ain and played football with half of my family on sundays.

In fact, I decided when I became a leader in Châteauroux, I said: ‘There, now, he is with me all the time. It has not always been very present in my life. When I got married, I didn’t like football at all. I wasn’t even going to see any matches. My wife didn’t know she was marrying someone who loved football so much. It is a common thread in my life, it is a passion. I like emotions, I like competition. I like all competitions in life. If you do TV or radio on a daily basis, as I did for a long time. Every morning, at 9:05 AM, the crowd trickles in, we play matches every day and it’s fantastic.”

About his candidacy for president of the League: “Vincent Labrune does that very well”

“I think it was a blessing in disguise for me, because I’m not sure I was necessarily the man for the job, given the board of directors that was there. There were 25 voters. J I had 10 votes, Vincent ( Labrune ) had 15. It was clear. For two days I was confused. And then today I am very happy, because I think Vincent does that very well. I am at an age where I am also happy that I have time for I am a grandfather And besides I like to have different activities and today President of the League he must give you 200% The creation of the commercial company is a great challenge that I think will succeed It is very good, very good for football.”

The relationship between the LFP and Canal+: “A complicated passage”

“I am often surprised to see Ligue 1 matches on Canal+ Décalé and not on Canal+. There was a complicated transition between Canal+ and the League. I lost everything in one morning, everything was done according to the rules. So after that we have to not respecting rules rules to favor people who have been around longer? It’s a philosophical question.

Regrets his career: ‘We could have become champions again’

“Every time we lose a game we are disappointed. I still lost a lot. Disappointment in the second European Cup final (In 1997, 1-0). I don’t think so” We didn’t believe it enough against Barcelona and we lost on a penalty from Ronaldo, the Brazilian. After that I think we could have won the championship again, also in the year we won the European Cup (in 1996). Otherwise we would have won the players we took afterwards.’ Don’t take it, we always make mistakes.”

On his arrival in Châteauroux: “My mother had opened the newspaper and I was chairman”

“In 1988 I became chairman of Châteauroux. I went to matches. The team was in the third division and the chairman was then called Claude Jamet, who carried the club from a distance. And then, one day, I go to matches and he says to me: ‘It would be nice if you could join us at the club one day.’ I say ‘Yeah, yeah, okay.’ Then I go back to Paris, I was on Canal then. And my mother called me three days later, she had opened the newspaper and I was president of the club. He didn’t tell me anything and that’s how it started.”

About Yannick Noah’s arrival at PSG: ‘He had his share of the victory’

“So we are 15 days away from the final (Against Rapid Vienna, in 1996). A final is special. It’s not a competition, it’s an event. The club has never won a European Cup. And I’m in the countryside at home, in Ain, on my little tractor. I tell myself what could I do to bring more in the 15 days before the finals? And so I think of Yannick Noah. I always thought that when you set a goal wanted to achieve , the ideal was to entrust the keys to someone who had already achieved it, he won at Roland-Garros and that is why he has this victory thing.

I knew his attachment to football. And then I call him. I said to him, ‘Would you like to come with us for the 15 days? I don’t know what it will be like or what you’re going to do.’ Jean-Claude Perrin was also on the staff with me, who was close to Yannick. He said yes, he has been with us for almost 15 days. He lived with the group. Little by little he untied a few knots. I think he had more affinities with some than with others, especially with Ngotty. And I think Ngotty’s free kick, there’s a little bit of Yannick Noah in it.

He got angry once, when we stopped on the highway where we were going to Brussels and the players started eating sausages. He was very strict about dietetics and he was right. He did what he wanted, he spent time with such and such a player, with such and such a group. Then he gave me his opinion, his feelings and in the end we won. If we win, everyone wins. Here, if we lose, it’s the president and the coach. He had his share of the win, of course.”